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		<title>Comment on The trouble with Twitter/Tories by JamesH</title>
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		<dc:creator>JamesH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James Surowiecki definitely saw it that way, Will, but given its popularity across the political spectrum I tend to think it&#039;s more about hugging the public close. I still haven&#039;t worked out the Ayn Rand philosophical connection to all this. The Web 2.0 evangelists seem to love her, but if anything the philosophy of Atlas Shrugged is a kind of elitism - maybe they use it as naughty bed-time reading after all that faux-egalitarianism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James Surowiecki definitely saw it that way, Will, but given its popularity across the political spectrum I tend to think it&#8217;s more about hugging the public close. I still haven&#8217;t worked out the Ayn Rand philosophical connection to all this. The Web 2.0 evangelists seem to love her, but if anything the philosophy of Atlas Shrugged is a kind of elitism &#8211; maybe they use it as naughty bed-time reading after all that faux-egalitarianism.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The trouble with Twitter/Tories by Will Davies</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will Davies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Phillip Mirowski is to be believed, crowd-sourcing might be the apotheosis of neo-liberalism. He argues in his post-script to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog/MIRROA.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this book&lt;/a&gt; that the same Hayekian relativism that promoted the market as a quasi-democratic opinion aggregator is also used to legitimate wikipedia - no expertise, no centralised judgement, just the distributed opinions of millions of consumers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Phillip Mirowski is to be believed, crowd-sourcing might be the apotheosis of neo-liberalism. He argues in his post-script to <a href="http://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog/MIRROA.html" rel="nofollow">this book</a> that the same Hayekian relativism that promoted the market as a quasi-democratic opinion aggregator is also used to legitimate wikipedia &#8211; no expertise, no centralised judgement, just the distributed opinions of millions of consumers.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Take two popular new stories, one a recent Hollywood thriller and the other the work of an underground London theatre company, and discuss. by Shaun Spalding</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun Spalding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 20:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I agree with the article pretty wholeheartedly, I don&#039;t agree with this line...

&quot;Gutenberg’s book took off not because its early evangelists went around waving them in people’s faces...&quot;

Gutenberg&#039;s printed books took off because he started by printing Bibles, something that everyone needed. Since it was too expensive for average individuals to own even a printed book at first, the early &quot;evangelists&quot; of printed books were no doubt real religious &quot;evangelists&quot; whose job it is to wave those books like the Bible around in people&#039;s faces. 

&quot;...because talented authors took the trouble to master this new way of working and to write great books&quot;

Moreover, the first books printed from Gutenberg&#039;s press other than the Bible were books that were already classics at the time -- works from Aristotle for example. The only talented authors who took the time to master this new way of working; therefore, were (A) &quot;god&quot; (B) authors already long dead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I agree with the article pretty wholeheartedly, I don&#8217;t agree with this line&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Gutenberg’s book took off not because its early evangelists went around waving them in people’s faces&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Gutenberg&#8217;s printed books took off because he started by printing Bibles, something that everyone needed. Since it was too expensive for average individuals to own even a printed book at first, the early &#8220;evangelists&#8221; of printed books were no doubt real religious &#8220;evangelists&#8221; whose job it is to wave those books like the Bible around in people&#8217;s faces. </p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;because talented authors took the trouble to master this new way of working and to write great books&#8221;</p>
<p>Moreover, the first books printed from Gutenberg&#8217;s press other than the Bible were books that were already classics at the time &#8212; works from Aristotle for example. The only talented authors who took the time to master this new way of working; therefore, were (A) &#8220;god&#8221; (B) authors already long dead.</p>
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		<title>Comment on I&#8217;m appearing tomorrow Tue 12 May, 730pm at the Bristol Festival of Ideas, if anyone&#8217;s around. by Tom Spencer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 12:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Mr Harkin

I read your book with great interest and delight, having felt uneasy about Facebook.  I eventually joined up, but found it to be a huge drain on my time, and left.

Your book raises so many interesting issues; the origins of Web 2.0, the electro-hippies of San Fran in the &#039;70s, Marshall McLuhan -  what lead you to write it?

I would also chuck in historian Garry Wills&#039; description of L.A., in &quot;Nixon Agonistes&quot;: 

&quot;Lanes of traffic knot and ravel out beneath a tangle of the city’s nerves.  It is the dreary future of McLuhan’s vision – a quiver of disembodied awareness, signal and reception; America fondly creates the entity she has praised for years as a “live wire”. This part of the country looks like a crush of people speeding nowhere, a jam of signals saying nothing, a great human switchboard.  No wonder Nixon left it as soon as he could”.

Is that now us, &quot;a great human switchboard&quot;, in Web 2.0?

I&#039;m less sure about that cybernetics is a poor literary device, though I wouldn&#039;t read it myself.  CS Lewis referred to the “interwoven” or “polyphonic” technique of Ovid’s Metamorphoses, Spenser, Boiardo, Ariosto and Tasso.  It dominated European prose and verse fiction from the 13th to 17th century.  &quot;Artistic fitness, not a single, rigid “plot”, allows weird, voluptuous, exciting and melancholy to succeed one another.  It adds depth, thickness or density.  An improbable adventure is always liable to be interrupted by another improbable adventure, suggesting a vast forest in which this sort of thing is always going on around us, and will survive our brief visit there.  We get a sense that the poet would show us more, but lacks the time to do so.&quot;

Does &quot;cyber-realism&quot; tap into none of that?

Again, thanks for an extremely interesting book.

Tom,
Australia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr Harkin</p>
<p>I read your book with great interest and delight, having felt uneasy about Facebook.  I eventually joined up, but found it to be a huge drain on my time, and left.</p>
<p>Your book raises so many interesting issues; the origins of Web 2.0, the electro-hippies of San Fran in the &#8217;70s, Marshall McLuhan &#8211;  what lead you to write it?</p>
<p>I would also chuck in historian Garry Wills&#8217; description of L.A., in &#8220;Nixon Agonistes&#8221;: </p>
<p>&#8220;Lanes of traffic knot and ravel out beneath a tangle of the city’s nerves.  It is the dreary future of McLuhan’s vision – a quiver of disembodied awareness, signal and reception; America fondly creates the entity she has praised for years as a “live wire”. This part of the country looks like a crush of people speeding nowhere, a jam of signals saying nothing, a great human switchboard.  No wonder Nixon left it as soon as he could”.</p>
<p>Is that now us, &#8220;a great human switchboard&#8221;, in Web 2.0?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m less sure about that cybernetics is a poor literary device, though I wouldn&#8217;t read it myself.  CS Lewis referred to the “interwoven” or “polyphonic” technique of Ovid’s Metamorphoses, Spenser, Boiardo, Ariosto and Tasso.  It dominated European prose and verse fiction from the 13th to 17th century.  &#8220;Artistic fitness, not a single, rigid “plot”, allows weird, voluptuous, exciting and melancholy to succeed one another.  It adds depth, thickness or density.  An improbable adventure is always liable to be interrupted by another improbable adventure, suggesting a vast forest in which this sort of thing is always going on around us, and will survive our brief visit there.  We get a sense that the poet would show us more, but lacks the time to do so.&#8221;</p>
<p>Does &#8220;cyber-realism&#8221; tap into none of that?</p>
<p>Again, thanks for an extremely interesting book.</p>
<p>Tom,<br />
Australia</p>
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		<title>Comment on The electronic diaspora as remainder by admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That sounds about right in my experience as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That sounds about right in my experience as well.</p>
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